- 12 Feb 2014 17:39
#110695
Just some things I disagree on.
riotpopper wrote:Aerodactyl: Honestly, this pokemon is great. High base speed, Different element fangs for coverage, high attack. It's a great pokemon. I would suggest Jolly Nature, Adamant if you run with a Choice Scarf. He dies to a single ice beam often, so it is important you hit first.
The elemental fangs all have a low base power, which means that a super-effective fang is less powerful than a neutral Stone Edge. They may have situational uses, like Ice Fang for Flygon, but generally they aren't very useful. Aerodactyl also has better coverage moves like Earthquake.
riotpopper wrote:Lapras: This pokemon is insane. At the moment it is one of the tankiest pokemon in Pixelmon. Couple that with it's Thunder, Ice Beam, and Brine, it is a force to be reckoned with. Give it Choice Specs, since choice Specs don't lock you into moves yet. It's intensely powerful. Calm or Modest Nature.
Thunder misses too often; use Thunderbolt.
Brine is weak, so use Hydro Pump or wait for Pixelmon 3.0 to teach it Surf.
Lapras also only has 85 Special Attack, which is decent but not amazing (even with Choice Specs), and you're overselling its power.
If you're going to use a Calm nature, then you should use a more defensive set. For your purposes, go with Modest.
riotpopper wrote:Snorlax: Intense Special defense, Crunch, Brick Break, STAB Giga Impact if you're taking risks, Rest, Leftovers. This pokemon is insane. If Munchlax is added and you can teach it Stockpile then it will be top tier forever.
Don't use Giga Impact; it's not worth the free turn you give to your opponent. Use Return instead.
Brick Break isn't very helpful as a super-effective Brick Break only does the same amount of damage as a neutral Return. If you need to hit Rock and Steel types, use Earthquake.
Rest leaves your opponent with two free turns to set up or switch to a counter. Since Sleep Talk doesn't work yet and there's no Chesto Berry, it's not worth it most of the time, especially as you're using Snorlax offensively.
riotpopper wrote:Arbok: Good speed, ok attack, it learns the different elemental fangs as well which is useful for coverage. Choice Band on this pokemon is a guaranteed 1-2 hit KO.
80 Speed and 85 Attack isn't great, and the rest of its stats aren't amazing either. The fangs are once again rather weak. Ice Fang may hit Ground-types, but the other fangs aren't of much note. Earthquake is a better coverage move that Arbok gets as well. You're not 2HKOing everything with Arbok.
riotpopper wrote:Drifblim: Stockpile for +1 Def +1 SP Def, Minimize for increased Evasion, then Shadow Ball and Will o Wisp. this pokemon is intense if it gets it's defenses stacked. Though before it's defense is increased with Stockpile it has low defense stats.
The problem here is that, due to Drifblim's low defenses, you don't usually have time to set up all of these stats before you die unless you get lucky and all of your opponent's attacks miss (which doesn't always happen). Drifblim isn't particularly strong either, with a Special Attack of only 90, so you'll still be taking hits.
riotpopper wrote:Mr.Mime: Have you seen this thing?! 100 Special Attack, 120 Special defense, 90Speed. Plus Light Screen, Reflect, Psychic and Substitute. Give this thing a Leftovers and it will wall ANY Fireblast, ANY Thunder, ANY Special attack, I'd wager it would survive a super effective Shadow ball, at least once. But at 40 HP and 65 Defense do not let it take a physical hit with no Barrier.
Reflect has not been implemented yet.
Mr. Mime may have great Special Defense, but its HP is still bad, and lack of reliable recovery outside of Rest means that it can be worn down quickly, so you can't just keep tanking forever. A strong physical attack will kill it instantly.
riotpopper wrote:Nidoking: Have you seen the Special attack and move pool on him? Thunder, Flame Thrower, Earth Power, Surf. Kills everything, it's intense. With Choice Specs he is insanely strong.
Nidoking can't learn Surf until Pixelmon 3.0.
Without the existence of Sheer Force, Nidoking's Special Attack is only 85, which is decent but not as amazing as you're making it.
Use Thunderbolt instead of Thunder.
You're not killing everything. Many Psychic types are faster than you and OHKO you.
riotpopper wrote:Porygon: He is pretty good, albeit hard to obtain. Once abilities are added and you can get Porygon2/Z he will be a must have.
While Porygon's evolutions are pretty good, regular old Porygon is not, as it has mediocre stats.
riotpopper wrote:Aggron: STAB Iron Tail plus a Choice Band. You're killing whatever you hit.
Iron Tail misses too often. Use Heavy Slam or Iron Head.
You're not killing everything. Fighting, Ground, and Water attacks will kill it, and it's also easily outsped.
riotpopper wrote:Torterra: Ground/Grass with insane physical attack. Not to mention Synthesis and Leech seed. Give him Earthquake, a physical grass move of some sort, and leftovers and he will never die.
Unfortunately, Torterra lacks a good physical Grass-type move for now. Wood Hammer is unavailable unless you spawn in a wild Torterra. Razor Leaf is too weak to consider.
It will die to Ice-type moves no matter how much passive recovery you have. You can't tank its other weaknesses (Bug/Fire/Flying) for too long either.
riotpopper wrote:Swampert: Wait, you mean I could have a powerful water type AND be invincible to electric types? Gimme dat STAB Earthquake and Muddy Water, here comes this beast.
For now, use Hydro Pump over Muddy Water. When HMs come out, use Waterfall.
riotpopper wrote:Eevee Evolutions: All are great. Honorable mention for Vaporeon because it is super tanky, and atm Tanky pokemon dominate Pixelmon. Leftovers + Aqua Ring means invincible pokemon. Plus an Ice Beam to stop those pesky grass types from killing you.
Vaporeon still has an Electric-type weaknesses that it's not getting around. Ice Beam isn't a full stop either as many Grass-types have decent Special Defense and are faster than you. It also has low Defense, so strong physical attacks will still wear it down fast.
riotpopper wrote:Ninetales: Super fast, Will o Wisp, Energy Ball (Grass move) to kill water types that counter it, and it outspeeds most of the water types in the game atm.
Ninetales isn't super fast; 100 speed is nice, but not as good as you're making it out to be. Starmie still outspeeds you and Tentacruel speed-ties you and isn't weak to Grass.
riotpopper wrote:Gyrados: Insane attack, amazing speed. Jolly Nature will guarantee you will take out your target.
Gyarados's 81 Speed is far from amazing. You're still outsped by several Electric types like Jolteon.
riotpopper wrote:Gengar: He is ok, but too many weaknesses. With no Abilities implemented he doesnot have Levitate, which means ground type moves 1 hit KO him, Psychic 1 Hit KO him, he isn't very tanky so without Levitate he is too easily countered. Though Hypnosis + Dream Eater can be painful, I dont think Dream Eater absorbs hp yet.
Aerodactyl and Lapras both have 5 weaknesses, while Gengar has 4, so your justification is flawed. You're forgetting Gengar's high Special Attack and Speed.
Don't use Dream Eater; it's not worth it and you give your opponent a free switch out. Hypnosis itself is inaccurate and Gengar works better attacking.
riotpopper wrote:Rhydon: He is ok, nice defense, neat move pool. It's nice to throw a super effective thunder or surf at someone without them expecting it, but overall meh.
Rhydon has 45 Special Attack, which means it's not doing much even with super-effective special attacks. Use Rhydon's physical coverage moves instead.
Again, Thunderbolt, not Thunder.
Surf isn't available until Pixelmon 3.0.
riotpopper wrote:Electrode: Explosion, Self Destruct, all it is good for but damn does it do well.
Electrode has a measly 50 Attack; there are better Pokémon to run Explosion on.
Never use Selfdestruct as everything that learns it learns Explosion too.
riotpopper wrote:Golem: Rock Slide, EarthQuake, Explosion. Nuff said.
Stone Edge is generally a better choice than Rock Slide thanks to its much higher power, more worth it than a 10% accuracy increase.
joshua_DA wrote:snorlax ya say? a lucky focus blast wrecks it. (though this is gimmicky for gengar imo)
Focus Blast is only a 2HKO on Snorlax (and a 49% of hitting both times), while Snorlax can OHKO Gengar with Earthquake, so not quite.
Regardless, Focus Blast is far from a gimmick and is actually an important move on Gengar, helping against Steel, Dark, and Normal types.
joshua_DA wrote:a dragon pokemon? let me significantly lower his hp with thunderbolt before i die...
Dragon resists Electric, so you're better off just using Shadow Ball. Flygon is even immune to Thunderbolt.
joshua_DA wrote:also, a hypnosis/counfuse ray+hex combo works good IMO for that extra punch in attacking( if you dont get it/fail) xD
Hex isn't worth wasting a moveslot or replacing Shadow Ball
Gengar shouldn't waste its time gambling on a 40%/50% chance of Hypnosis/Confuse Ray doing nothing. It should focus on attacking.
joshua_DA wrote:jolteon: modest/timid ev trained in sp attack and spd and oh boy does it bitch slap things who dont resist a thunderbolt to the face,,,,,(plus a shadow ball) it could even 1 hit KO a rayquaza with a modest thunderbolt.
Jolteon is not OHKOing Rayquaza with Thunderbolt. Jolteon's only way of doing that is Hidden Power Ice.
joshua_DA wrote:swampert/starmie: they have the same place in my top 3 cause they both do their purpose, to sweep. swampert sweeps by tanking damage and killing most things with earthquake/hammer arm/muddywater/scald coverage in pixelmon while starmie sweeps plenty of things (including dragons) with the popular thunderbolt+ice beam coverage!
Having both Muddy Water and Scald is wasting a moveslot. Hydro Pump is better than both of them if you're going the offensive route.
riotpopper wrote:Also kind of a side question, does Baton Pass work in Pixelmon yet?
Baton Pass isn't working in the current Pixelmon version, but it has been fixed for a future version (not 3.0, but possibly 3.1).